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Daldianus
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Evidence that Christianity is the one and only true religion?
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July 11, 2008, 12:10:03 PM »
What is the evidence for the claim that Christianity is the one and only true religion?
Which arguments could sway a non-Christian to change his or her mind and convert?
Or are only those people able to recognize The Truth those that were enabled, beforehand, by the God this Truth talks about?
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Daldianus
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Re: Evidence that Christianity is the one and only true religion?
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July 14, 2008, 02:11:22 AM »
There is none ... ? It simply has to be taken totally on faith?
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jacknky
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Re: Evidence that Christianity is the one and only true religion?
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July 14, 2008, 12:21:04 PM »
"It simply has to be taken totally on faith?"
Yes. I believe that is the nature of faith, that what can't be seen is believed to be true.
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Re: Evidence that Christianity is the one and only true religion?
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July 14, 2008, 12:48:09 PM »
Quote from: jacknky on July 14, 2008, 12:21:04 PM
"It simply has to be taken totally on faith?"
Yes. I believe that is the nature of faith, that what can't be seen is believed to be true.
But how can an outsider then know which faith is the correct one? Or does he or she simply choose the one that feels best for him or her? Regardless of the truthfulness. Assuming any of them actually represents The Truth.
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jacknky
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Re: Evidence that Christianity is the one and only true religion?
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July 14, 2008, 01:45:11 PM »
"But how can an outsider then know which faith is the correct one?"
Obviously most theists believe in the religion that got to them first. it's societal. A few convert but most believe as they were taught as children.
You know all this. Are you trying to get Christians to say their belief is illogical? Good luck.
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Daldianus
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Re: Evidence that Christianity is the one and only true religion?
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July 14, 2008, 11:24:44 PM »
Quote from: jacknky on July 14, 2008, 01:45:11 PM
"But how can an outsider then know which faith is the correct one?"
Obviously most theists believe in the religion that got to them first. it's societal. A few convert but most believe as they were taught as children.
I agree. Or they believe the religion that rescued them from a personal 'trauma' or tragedy. Like George W. who has become such a fervent Christian suddenly a few years back since the religion helped him overcome his alcoholism.
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You know all this. Are you trying to get Christians to say their belief is illogical? Good luck.
I'm trying to make them explain how an outsider is supposed to know or at least assume that Christianity is the one and only true religion.
Given their unwilligness to participate in this thread, I have to assume that they don't have a lot of arguments?
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ThinkItThrough
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Re: Evidence that Christianity is the one and only true religion?
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July 19, 2008, 01:28:57 PM »
Christianity has alot of evidence behind it's claims.. If you do a little research you would see... dont just assume it's wrong...
Prophecy - The Bible is full of prophecy, many of which have happened in our lifetime, and some still unfolding today, like the islamization of lebbanon, and the worsening islamic Jihad
Miracles - Spiritual phenomena occuring worldwide on an increasing level. People being cured of AIDS.
History - The Bible has been proven to be historically accurate,
With Ancient tribes all over the world remembering a global flood, proving the global flood actually happened. to the Dead Sea Scroll's proving the 300 prophecies of Jesus Christ.
Science - The bible tells us things about science we are still coming to learn through scientific discovery. Science itself is still a baby.
For example the Bible tells us many things to do with stars, the sun. Things we have only begun to learn through modern science.
The Bible says the earth is round, free floating, and spinning.. Other religions think the earth rests on a elephant, and that elephant rests on a giant turtle. Islam thinks earth is flat and the sun rests in a muddy puddle.
Seriously though... The Bible's scientific claims are amazing.. During a time when people thought crazy things like the earth was flat resting on a elephant resting on a turtle. The Bible said the earth was round, free floating and spinning.
During a time when religions thought the sun was a God, the Moon was another God, the tree's were God's, the Oceans were God's etc... The Bible had it right saying the Sun was a planet, the Moon was a planet, the stars are all stars, and oceans are just large bodies of water...
Up until the past century we have not been able to scientifically prove the Bible's claims.. but now we can...
There is alot i could talk about here............... will get into things in deeper detail if desired..
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MarcAurel
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Re: Evidence that Christianity is the one and only true religion?
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July 20, 2008, 06:34:32 AM »
Quote from: ThinkItThrough on July 19, 2008, 01:28:57 PM
Christianity has alot of evidence behind it's claims.. If you do a little research you would see... dont just assume it's wrong...
Prophecy - The Bible is full of prophecy, many of which have happened in our lifetime, and some still unfolding today, like the islamization of lebbanon, and the worsening islamic Jihad
Miracles - Spiritual phenomena occuring worldwide on an increasing level. People being cured of AIDS.
History - The Bible has been proven to be historically accurate,
With Ancient tribes all over the world remembering a global flood, proving the global flood actually happened. to the Dead Sea Scroll's proving the 300 prophecies of Jesus Christ.
Science - The bible tells us things about science we are still coming to learn through scientific discovery. Science itself is still a baby.
For example the Bible tells us many things to do with stars, the sun. Things we have only begun to learn through modern science.
The Bible says the earth is round, free floating, and spinning.. Other religions think the earth rests on a elephant, and that elephant rests on a giant turtle. Islam thinks earth is flat and the sun rests in a muddy puddle.
Seriously though... The Bible's scientific claims are amazing.. During a time when people thought crazy things like the earth was flat resting on a elephant resting on a turtle. The Bible said the earth was round, free floating and spinning.
During a time when religions thought the sun was a God, the Moon was another God, the tree's were God's, the Oceans were God's etc... The Bible had it right saying the Sun was a planet, the Moon was a planet, the stars are all stars, and oceans are just large bodies of water...
Up until the past century we have not been able to scientifically prove the Bible's claims.. but now we can...
There is alot i could talk about here............... will get into things in deeper detail if desired..
Do you have any references to these claims?
Where does the Bible for example say that the Earth is a globe?
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sferrari17
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Re: Evidence that Christianity is the one and only true religion?
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July 20, 2008, 08:25:02 AM »
Yes, I'd be interested to hear the support for those claims as well.
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Re: Evidence that Christianity is the one and only true religion?
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July 20, 2008, 09:17:23 AM »
Quote from: Daldianus on July 11, 2008, 12:10:03 PM
What is the evidence for the claim that Christianity is the one and only true religion?
Which arguments could sway a non-Christian to change his or her mind and convert?
Or are only those people able to recognize The Truth those that were enabled, beforehand, by the God this Truth talks about?
Well I don't know how well this answers your question, but I can mention what swayed me. I was not raised a Christian, and for all intents and purposes was an atheist for much of my time growing up. I had ideas and impressions about how we should treat others and a sense of connection with something outside myself, but I didn't know if it was a God or nature or what. I had no name for it, but it was a creating and life-giving force. It was involved in our affairs to a point and gave guidance in life in terms of interaction with other people. I later went through a period of progression, where I was an agnostic and then a deist. Now I see that that might be a natural progression, one a lot of converts go through.
I met some friends who told me about Jesus, but it wasn't just their speech that swayed me. It was their actions, their *living what they were teaching*, that got to me. The Jesus they told me about and the one taught about in many mainline churches was basically the incarnation of the 'force' I mentioned above. Basically, the 'force' or 'presence' I had believed in and felt all along finally had a name. I can't speak for anyone else, but I wonder if this same thing could be true for other Christians or followers of other religions.
I believe that everyone believes
something
, named or not, identified clearly or not, involved in human affairs or not. A belief that there is no God/higher power is still a belief, IMO. The belief that we are basically on our own is still a belief. You get the idea.
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Re: Evidence that Christianity is the one and only true religion?
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July 20, 2008, 09:23:47 AM »
Quote from: jacknky on July 14, 2008, 01:45:11 PM
"But how can an outsider then know which faith is the correct one?"
Obviously most theists believe in the religion that got to them first. it's societal. A few convert but most believe as they were taught as children.
You know all this. Are you trying to get Christians to say their belief is illogical? Good luck.
I am not entirely sure about this. Yes, most of us grow up believing what we were taught as children, but we all go through a time in our lives where we step back and look at what we believe/were taught, and decide where to go from there. This could be in the teen years, college, after a life-changing experience, whatever but I believe that pretty much all of us go through a period of self-examination at some point or another. I would think such a thing would be essential to forming a solid belief or faith, because how can you really grow if you don't know why you believe, or question anything? And I have yet to meet a teen or young adult who doesn't question at least *some* things.
I think many people have an impression or belief about how things are or should be, but they just don't have a name for it. So we end up following the religion that rings most true for us. Some do more research about religions or beliefs than others, but people don't tend to stay in a belief group that doesn't ring true for them at least in some way.
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Re: Evidence that Christianity is the one and only true religion?
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July 22, 2008, 01:28:09 PM »
BD,
"This could be in the teen years, college, after a life-changing experience, whatever but I believe that pretty much all of us go through a period of self-examination at some point or another."
Yes, of course we humans often go through periods of self examination but that doesn't mean most of us are very open to new and different religions. We tend to view our examinations through the lens of what we know best which usually is the dominant religion in our geographical area. Yes, a few folks convert from one religion to another but they are in a huge minority, IMHO.
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