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Author Topic: Ignorance of Astounding Proportion!  (Read 56 times)
TENAC
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« on: July 07, 2008, 05:25:48 PM »

You really need to read this.

If elected, obama will be the most ignorant of any president elected in our lifetime.


http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/07/obama_ignorance_watch_what_do.asp

After reading this, it makes one wonder how our military feels about this election. 

Remember you heard this here first:


Obama will avoid any type of wide open debate.  He will avoid any open press conferences.  He and his campaign will not participate in anything they do not hold a tight script on.  If possible, obama will not debate in the general at all.

I made that statement either on this board or the other board earlier.  Obama has already backed down (surprise, surprise) from his earlier statements of debate McCain anytime, anywhere to a couple of debates and no townhall debates.

Of course, this will have been his position on debates all along by the time he has to defend it.
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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2008, 08:27:14 PM »

Just a thought (correct me if I am misguided): couldn't such a "new assignment" to "advisors" be to come up with the best way to "end the war", and couldn't the wording simply be a rhetorical simplification of what he knows to be a complex process... i.e., he's saying he's going to his advisers and directing him with this "new assignment" in mind, but he doesn't mind that those who don't know any better think of it as going to the generals/chain of command and telling them to "end the war" directly, however one might envisage this.
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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2008, 08:58:35 PM »

Just a thought (correct me if I am misguided): couldn't such a "new assignment" to "advisors" be to come up with the best way to "end the war", and couldn't the wording simply be a rhetorical simplification of what he knows to be a complex process... i.e., he's saying he's going to his advisers and directing him with this "new assignment" in mind, but he doesn't mind that those who don't know any better think of it as going to the generals/chain of command and telling them to "end the war" directly, however one might envisage this.

I think you are more guided than this candidate.

I see this as more a case of better to say nothing and be thought a fool, than say something and remove all doubt.

Had obama left it at he would consult the Commanders on the ground (Generals) as to the best way to end the war, it would have carried the weight he wanted.  But he made it obvious he doesnt know what the Joint Chiefs are for or their job description or the change in their job description as of 1986.  I also think this is a case of obama speaking extemporaneously.  He simply isnt good at it.  Further he thinks he IS good at it (see the press conferences recently where within 12 hours he spoke and respoke a couple of hours later attempting to explain the first speak.)

He was shocked the media flap it caused.

How will such speaking play on the national stage as president?  His worshipers and media in this country may give him a pass, but terrorists, Iran, Chavez, et al wont.
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« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2008, 12:09:12 PM »

You really need to read this.

If elected, obama will be the most ignorant of any president elected in our lifetime.


http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/07/obama_ignorance_watch_what_do.asp

After reading this, it makes one wonder how our military feels about this election. 

Remember you heard this here first:


Obama will avoid any type of wide open debate.  He will avoid any open press conferences.  He and his campaign will not participate in anything they do not hold a tight script on.  If possible, obama will not debate in the general at all.

I made that statement either on this board or the other board earlier.  Obama has already backed down (surprise, surprise) from his earlier statements of debate McCain anytime, anywhere to a couple of debates and no townhall debates.

Of course, this will have been his position on debates all along by the time he has to defend it.


That was a pretty interesting take on Obama's misstatement.  For those of you who didn't take the time to read the link, Obama made the statement that he will give his Joint Chiefs of Staff a new assignment to end the war in Iraq.  However the Joint Chiefs of Staff is only an advisory committee to the president that doesn't not have the capacity to bark out orders, nor to execute military commands.

My goodness, Obama doesn't even know the chain of command regarding the presidency, and he believes he's the best qualified to fulfill this position.  This is a wake up call, folks.  He's a junior senator with a milk mustache.  Put him in the driver's seat, and you will regret it.
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« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2008, 10:21:53 AM »

I thought this thread was about me from reading the title.

Whew.

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« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2008, 07:01:52 PM »

I thought this thread was about me from reading the title.

Whew.

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Not you, our smartest moderator!!!!
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« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2008, 08:05:08 AM »

Wow, I feel sorry for you guys then.

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