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« on: July 16, 2008, 03:02:38 PM »

Press reports continue to demonstrate that the Obama record is dismal.  It is filled with Obama lies, deceptions, and demonstrates  that  Barak Obama is inexperienced and is not afraid to tell lies and deceptions to cover up his lack of experience in the real world

Son of a WWII war hero

Today’s Wall Street Journal illustrates the cunning Obama statements in the recent New Yorker Magazine

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“My grandfather signed up for a war the day after Pearl Harbor was bombed, fought in Patton's Army. He saw the dead and dying across the fields of Europe; he heard the stories of fellow-troops who first entered Auschwitz and Treblinka. . . ."


In fact, Auschwitz was liberated not by Patton's army but by Zhukov's:

I think that Obama’s father was more honest than his son.

Newsmax.com illustrates the real “experience” of  Obama

http://www.newsmax.com/kessler/Obama_Inexperience/2008/07/15/112909.html

Community Oraganizer (whatever that is)

In his memoir, Obama says being a community organizer taught him how to motivate the powerless and work the government to help them. His chief example is an effort to remove asbestos from Altgeld Gardens, an all-black public housing project on Chicago’s South Side.

Those involved in the project say Obama played a minor role and never accomplished much  They are also upset that Obama takes credit for the work that they did.  The project involved removing asbestos from a Black Housing site in Chicago. 

Obama  devoted 100 pages in his book explaining the project and his involvement in it.


 . . . . the Los Angeles Times has noted, the “
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large-scale change that was needed at the 1,998-unit project was beyond his reach.”


To this day, most of the asbestos remains in the apartments

If that was beyond his reach,  what kind of a president would he make other than to turn the US into an ABOMANATION.

Over the nine years that Obama’s law license was active in Illinois, he never handled a trial and mostly worked in teams of lawyers who drew up briefs and contracts in a variety of cases,” according to David Mendell’s “Obama: From Promise To Power.”

A review of his practice shows that he appeared in only 10 Cases during his legal career.

State and US Senator

In order to avoid controversy Obama had a reputation for voting ‘present”  rather than a vote that could be used against him.

Only one of the measures Obama has sponsored as a U.S. senator was enacted: a bill to “promote relief, security, and democracy in the Democratic Republic of Congo.”

The article concludes

Contrary to Obama’s portrayal of himself as a unifier, on every bipartisan effort in the Senate to forge compromises on tough issues, Obama has been missing in action.
In sum, it would be difficult to imagine a more mediocre record. Most candidates for dog catcher have contributed more to society. Yet with the help of adoring reporters, Obama has managed to parlay extraordinary speaking and political skills into a presidential campaign built on sand.
The idea that America might entrust its security and future to someone who has never demonstrated an ability to get anything of significance done is scary.

Commander in Chief

Obama’s recent statement that, with respect to Iraq that “Obama would ‘gather “his Military chief’s of staff together and order them to remove troops on a timetable” reveals great ignorance of command structure.  The Chiefs and not line commanders and are normally used to offer recommendations.
 
And imagine,  Obama is seeking to be president of this great land.He not only has no experience as a responsible executive of congress person, but  his record is an obamanaton.

This lack of  experience was presented in only one day of News.

 Does anyone have any positive experience to


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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2008, 02:25:55 PM »

I guess no one has any positive statements about the Obamanation record

Interesting that another major publication picked up on Obama's comments on giving the "joint chief of staff" orders to get out of Iraq.
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« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2008, 09:17:41 AM »

Is Obama safe?  His record is an obomanation.  Notably on his position on the most important issue facing a president,  National security. The following article outlines the Obama shifting on many issues and even worse, he inability to accept that he has been wrong..

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121684823498078481.html?mod=hps_us_whats_news

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At least Mr. McCain fesses up to and explains his changes. Sen. Obama has shifted recently on public financing, free trade, Nafta, welfare reform, the D.C. gun ban, whether the Iranian Quds Force is a terrorist group, immunity for telecom companies participating in the Terrorist Surveillance Program, the status of Jerusalem, flag lapel pins, and disavowing Rev. Jeremiah Wright. And not only does he refuse to explain these flip-flops, he acts as if they never occurred.

Fortunately, the voters will get a chance to revisit these flip flops and use them as another reason to vote for McCain.

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Then there is Iraq. Throughout 2006 and early 2007, Mr. Obama pledged to remove all U.S. troops, even voting to immediately cut off funds for the troops while they were in combat. Then, in July 2007, he started talking about leaving a residual U.S. force, in Kuwait and elsewhere in the region, able to go back into Iraq if needed.

By October, he shifted again, pledging to station the residual U.S. troops inside Iraq with two "limited missions of protecting our diplomats and carrying out targeted strikes on al Qaeda."
Last week, writing in the New York Times, Mr. Obama changed again. He increased the missions his residual force would perform to three: "going after any remnants of al Qaeda in Mesopotamia, protecting American service members and, so long as the Iraqis make political progress, training Iraqi security forces." That's not all that different from what U.S. troops are doing now.

Compounding all this is Mr. Obama's stubborn refusal to admit the surge was right and that he was wrong to oppose it

Can you imagine a "commander in chief" voting to cut off funds for troops in combat??

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While the Iraqi effort is almost exclusively American now, Afghanistan is a NATO mission. Sen. Obama, chairman of the Senate Subcommittee on European and NATO affairs, had never visited Afghanistan, and has not bothered to hold a hearing of the subcommittee covering the countries for which it bears legislative oversight responsibility.

Obama has no executive experience and here was a chance for him to get some experience in international affairs.  He blew his chance, another obomanation.   Today he is trying to learn by meeting world leaders (NATO ones??)  In fact if he had interest he would have done more during his brief time in congress.

What is obvious is that Obama has one objective,  to con the American people into voting for him.
The only real asset obama has is that he is black.  He is really an unqualified Black at that.




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« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2008, 11:09:31 AM »

Seriously, the "obomanation" thing is getting old.  We get it. 
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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2008, 11:15:18 AM »

Seriously, the "obomanation" thing is getting old.  We get it. 

"We" may get it, but do the American Voters??

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« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2008, 01:45:50 PM »

The Obamanation snapshot

“Obama is a three-year senator without a single important legislative achievement to his name, a former Illinois state senator who voted ‘present’ nearly 130 times. As president of the Harvard Law Review, as law professor and as legislator, has he ever produced a single notable piece of scholarship? Written a single memorable article? His most memorable work is a biography of his favorite subject: himself.” —Charles Krauthammer

I learned today that Obama walked out of the Illinois legislature rather than vote for a law that would prohibit doctors from killing a baby born during a failed abortion.[

also noteworthy is the fact that he never published one work as a law professor./font]


“Barack Obama wrote a prayer to God which he placed in Jerusalem’s Wailing Wall last week. The prayer note was retrieved by a seminary student and published in an Israeli newspaper. Everybody in Israel wanted to know if it was addressed, ‘Dear Dad’.” —Argus Hamilton

This has been confirmed today.  Obama meant for his not to be read, not retained in a sacred place as would any decent human being . (hope mine is still there)


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« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2008, 04:38:29 PM »

IMO, stories taken from sites that are non-objective and tell only one side of a story such as newsmax.com or Citizen Link are not worth responding to.
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« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2008, 04:40:13 PM »

Newsmax has been recycling articles from the Associated Press.  In other words, they are not perfect.   Wink
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« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2008, 06:18:26 PM »

Newsmax has been recycling articles from the Associated Press.  In other words, they are not perfect.   Wink

Actually, I believe the column quoted was by Dick Morris. With columnists such as Paul Weyrich, Dr. Laura, David Limbaugh, Michael Reagan, and Pat Boone(?), I see no objectivity.
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« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2008, 07:23:37 PM »

Welcome TPaine to the discussion.

Obama has nothing to qualify him for the presidency.  He is the most inexperienced (no executive experience) candidate with no record of accomplishing anything but self promotion.

His record is littered with associations with criminals (Rezko) and left wing Idealogues (Ayers) and it gets worse every day.  Today's news (NY Post) is that Obama actualy tried to convince the Iraq PM not to sign the recent agreement on turning over Anbar province until next year so that he could get the credit. 

What is on the record is his tax increases and his grandeose plans to socialize more and more of America.

In our current financial situation (stimulated by the fall of freddy and Fannie, two "do gooder" government programs) this is the absolutely wrong prescription for America.  His comments today on the economy (mostly blaming Bush for everything) included the statement that this debacle was caused by Bush's failure to increase the minimum wage.  I doubt that he will repeat that absurd statement.

Also on the record is the fact that two former Fannie/Freddie executives are senior economic advisors to Obama.  And of course the executives of Lehman Brothers are big donors to Obama's campaign. Obama is only in second place.  Chris Dodd was in first place.

With that record, the public is demonstrating wisdom by responding to the polls that show a colossal meltdown of Obama's popularity.  It will ve even worse by Election day. 
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« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2008, 07:55:30 PM »

Faithfulee,


This is the article you were speaking of.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/09152008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/obama_tried_to_stall_gis_iraq_withdrawal_129150.htm


"According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.

"'He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington,'" Zebari said in an interview.

Obama insisted that Congress should be involved in negotiations on the status of US troops - and that it was in the interests of both sides not to have an agreement negotiated by the Bush administration in its "state of weakness and political confusion.
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" Maliki's advisers have persuaded him that Obama will win - but the prime minister worries about the senator's "political debt to the anti-war lobby" - which is determined to transform Iraq into a disaster to prove that toppling Saddam Hussein was "the biggest strategic blunder in US history."

Other prominent Iraqi leaders, such as Vice President Adel Abdul-Mahdi and Kurdish regional President Massoud Barzani, believe that Sen. John McCain would show "a more realistic approach to Iraqi issues."

Obama has given Iraqis the impression that he doesn't want Iraq to appear anything like a success, let alone a victory, for America. The reason? He fears that the perception of US victory there might revive the Bush Doctrine of "pre-emptive" war - that is, removing a threat before it strikes at America.
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If any of this is true, this won't be good for Obama.  First, he has no right to negotiate with Iraqi leaders in opposition to the President of the United States.  It shows major hubris that he acts like a president before he steps into the White House.  And second, it suggests he is trying to delay the successes in Iraq until a new administration is in the White House purely for the political gain of his campaign - what happened to nation first? 



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« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2008, 07:37:52 AM »

Welcome TPaine to the discussion.

Thanks

Obama has nothing to qualify him for the presidency.  He is the most inexperienced (no executive experience) candidate with no record of accomplishing anything but self promotion.

What executive experience does McCain have?

His record is littered with associations with criminals (Rezko) and left wing Idealogues (Ayers) and it gets worse every day.  Today's news (NY Post) is that Obama actualy tried to convince the Iraq PM not to sign the recent agreement on turning over Anbar province until next year so that he could get the credit.

Ok, so Rezko is bad, but the Keating 5 is ok. The Rupert Murdoch owned New York Post has absolutely no credibility as an objective source. Like Fox News they are little more than a Republican tool. I heard the same Bravo Sierra about Reagan and the Iran hostage crisis. Supposedly he got the Ayatollah Khomeini to hold off releasing the hostages until after the Inauguration. Maybe that's where the Post got the idea for the story.

What is on the record is his tax increases and his grandeose plans to socialize more and more of America.

In our current financial situation (stimulated by the fall of freddy and Fannie, two "do gooder" government programs) this is the absolutely wrong prescription for America.  His comments today on the economy (mostly blaming Bush for everything) included the statement that this debacle was caused by Bush's failure to increase the minimum wage.  I doubt that he will repeat that absurd statement.

Also on the record is the fact that two former Fannie/Freddie executives are senior economic advisors to Obama.  And of course the executives of Lehman Brothers are big donors to Obama's campaign. Obama is only in second place.  Chris Dodd was in first place.

With that record, the public is demonstrating wisdom by responding to the polls that show a colossal meltdown of Obama's popularity.  It will ve even worse by Election day. 

Back up those claims by linking reputable objective sources. (Citizen Link doesn't count as objective, nor does the NY Post.)

McCain's connection with Phil (the economic problems are all in your minds) Graham shows a lack of knowledge about the economy. McCain also has a record number of lobbyists or former lobbyists working on his campaign, including having a chief foreign policy adviser who was a paid lobbyist for Georgia. Wonder why McCain and Palin want to make Georgia a member of NATO? It couldn't be because the Georgian money was well spent could it?
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« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2008, 09:41:54 AM »

Tpaine,

For what it is worth, I'm glad you're here.  I need a knowledgeable liberal to run my ideas across.   Wink
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« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2008, 11:59:45 AM »

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I have heard it several times in addition from the NYPost article.  The person quoted was an Iraqi representative and I know no reason why he would lie.


This is indeed an abomoanation.  And to think few have picked him up on this.

More than anything else it describes the character of Obama or more properly it give more indication into his real character. 

Tpaine

I too am pleased to have an intelligent Informed liberal to debate.


Do you deny that the Post quoted an Iraqi Minister??

I am pleased that you admit that Rezko is bad.

Is Ayer’s  the kind of mentor you would want for your president??

And how about the Rev J. Wright?  Is he the kind of mentor you would want for President.  As another note  Obama finally made pubic his  “charitable” donations for 2006.  the main donation  $20,0000 went to Wrights Church, the black caucus was second and a black dance troop was third in line.  Is that a record you are proud of.

Sadly all members of congress are beholden to lobbyists but at least McCain is maverick enough to complain about the system and has a record of reforming it (McCain Feingold). 

The  Obama Record in the current home mortgage meltdown is abominable.  Three of Obamas key “financial” advisors were associated with  the Home mortgage industry.  That included   Mr Raines who walked out of the agency with a $100 MILLION bonus.(or more)   Do you think he should give it back . . or perhaps only that part that he hasn’t donated to the Obama campaign.
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« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2008, 12:16:00 PM »

Acumen

I have heard it several times in addition from the NYPost article.  The person quoted was an Iraqi representative and I know no reason why he would lie.


This is indeed an abomoanation.  And to think few have picked him up on this.

More than anything else it describes the character of Obama or more properly it give more indication into his real character. 

Tpaine

I too am pleased to have an intelligent Informed liberal to debate.


Do you deny that the Post quoted an Iraqi Minister??

I am pleased that you admit that Rezko is bad.

Is Ayer’s  the kind of mentor you would want for your president??

And how about the Rev J. Wright?  Is he the kind of mentor you would want for President.  As another note  Obama finally made pubic his  “charitable” donations for 2006.  the main donation  $20,0000 went to Wrights Church, the black caucus was second and a black dance troop was third in line.  Is that a record you are proud of.

Sadly all members of congress are beholden to lobbyists but at least McCain is maverick enough to complain about the system and has a record of reforming it (McCain Feingold). 

The  Obama Record in the current home mortgage meltdown is abominable.  Three of Obamas key “financial” advisors were associated with  the Home mortgage industry.  That included   Mr Raines who walked out of the agency with a $100 MILLION bonus.(or more)   Do you think he should give it back . . or perhaps only that part that he hasn’t donated to the Obama campaign.



Newsmax just went with the story, so it's starting to make it's way to larger publications.  I have a feeling this won't be too good for the Obama campaign.  Who is Biden again?
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« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2008, 01:39:03 PM »

Tpaine,

For what it is worth, I'm glad you're here.  I need a knowledgeable liberal to run my ideas across.   Wink

Thanks. You almost make me wish I was a liberal.  Grin
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« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2008, 01:47:29 PM »

Tpaine,

For what it is worth, I'm glad you're here.  I need a knowledgeable liberal to run my ideas across.   Wink

Thanks. You almost make me wish I was a liberal.  Grin


Sorry, I think you said somewhere you were a libertarian.  Anyway, I like my ideas to be challenged in here. 

I generally think my ideas are right if they survive scrutiny tests from intelligent posters with opposing views.  If my views become hard to defend, then it makes me consider other options.

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« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2008, 02:03:33 PM »

Tpaine,

For what it is worth, I'm glad you're here.  I need a knowledgeable liberal to run my ideas across.   Wink

Thanks. You almost make me wish I was a liberal.  Grin

Whatever you are, I hope you are open to discussing these issues and accepting the facts that Acumen and I are presenting here.

 
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« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2008, 08:51:22 AM »

The twenty top recipients over the past 20 years from financial institutions in past 10 years
(Source" Center ofr Responsibe Politics

Hillary Clinton    $31 million
Obama               27.9 Million
McCain               26,6 Million
Kerry                  19.1
Dodd                   13.2

How can I claim that Obama was bought??

He has only been in congress for 2 years

Yes the whole thing stinks,  but who has a record of promoting Campaign Finance Reform?  McCain

Who has agreed to these reforms and rejected the terms of reform when it suited him      OBOMA

OBAMA is an unscrupulous selfpromoting socialist who's record reveals that he has taken funds from the failed banking industry in the hopes of influencing his judgement.  Obmoma's record demonstrates that he will do everything in his own interest rather than that of America.

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