Beliefnet moderators are thining the crowd

[oneinchrist1963]

Thank you acumen for your invitation here, thank you faithfulee for your courteous thank you message.

Now to work. Does it appear to anyone else that the other BN board is in high gear trying to run off all conservative posters? By giving infractions for the silliest reasons? How childish. It's as if they act that you are closer to a spanking than before the post. They threaten you that you are closer to "restricted" posting. or possibly a suspension.

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Boy I'm shaking, skeeeered. BFD
I'd think it was my moniker that may have a little bit to do with it, but yet it seems it is only the conservatives that complain about it, and posts are removed in a matter of minutes, yet others just stay on for days.

Lately it's been mylons who's had a hard on for me. Gave me an infraction yesterday for stating "hoover's been here" when I noticed a post was removed. He said it was a Rule 19 Complaint about moderators.

What a dork, those glass pushers probably had their lunch money stolen so many times they think that they need to get even.


oooooooooooooooooooo a infraction I'm so friggin skeered, ooooooooooooooooo a suspension oh no that might mean I can't post for a while oooooooo what will i do.

probably spend more time making some cash instead of posting trying to convince a bunch of losers that we live in a very posperous country and things are good.

No, instead they whine about how terrible things are while they post their lives away sometimes hundreds a day about how bad it is.

Obviously the well they are swimming in must be smelly and the only sense of relief they get is when they complain about their own smell.

My 2 cents

[Faithfulee]

That is pretty much my experience on Beliefnet.  I was one of the very early contributors and I posted as often as most anyone.

I had few infractions until I took on the Muslim board and refused to back down on the need for Muslims to condemn Islamic Terrorists.  The moderator declared that discussing Islamic Terrorism was off topic, even though it cleary was responsive to the topic.

After my Suspension is Insisted that my profile be removed.  My contributions and membership is an asset to Beliefnet.  They refused to do so, so I just chaged my name and Email and continued to post until they finally removed my profile.  I suggest that all disaffected Bnetter do the same.

On a more positive thought,  I would like to see Beliefcorner become a superior place for people like us to blog.  We could use a few more liberals and in my case, more Muslims to defend or discuss their religion. 

[oneinchrist1963]

Your profile and pictures are still up, they haven't been removed yet.

[Acumen]

Now to work. Does it appear to anyone else that the other BN board is in high gear trying to run off all conservative posters?

Yes.  This forum, in part, was built to be an answer to Bnet's predominance of liberal moderators.

Elluminati and I were members of Bnet when they first started back in the early 2000's.  We spent most of our time on the Jewish debate boards, and although it took the Jews a little time to get used to us, it was good conversation for the most part.  We met good people like Howiedds, Julrich, and Vra.

Then we moved toward the Pentecostal debate board and ran into a few problems with some posters, who apparently had some strong liberal connections with the Bnet staff.  Our posts were being removed and suspensions were handed out.  We didn't like it, but we felt compelled to stay.  A few years later, we no longer wanted to be a part of a forum where nasty things were continually said about Christianity whereas criticisms about other religions simply were not tolerated.  We left Bnet, took some time off, and then persuaded Thorolf (a mastermind and computer guru behind creating this forum) and a few others to start a forum that was "fair and balanced" where liberals and conservatives can meet on neutral, common ground -- a place of intellectual exchanges where ad hominem was frowned upon.

Meanwhile, those very conservatives that continually complain on Bnet about liberal bias and unfair treatment stay in a place dominated by liberals with something like a 5:1 ratio.  Many of my posts have been deleted because of links I appended, and some of my thread openers were deleted for no apparent reason other than liberal bias.  In fact, the thread here called "the centerpiece known as Iraq" was deleted three times on Bnet before it was allowed to stay.  If you were to preview it, you would find there is nothing inflammatory or rule-breaking about it.  Why was it removed?

And yet conservatives do not show Bnet the seriousness of their dislike by voting with their mouse.  Only when people start leaving in droves will Bnet get the picture.  Invite your friends here, let's show Bnet how a forum should be.



 

[Faithfulee]

Your profile and pictures are still up, they haven't been removed yet.

I don't think they can take out the picutres, and I don't care much.  Mostly I wanted my detailef profile removed.  I spent a lot of time developing it and was ashamed to see it remain on Beliefnet.

I was getting a "friendship request" about once a week in recent months, and I couldn't respond because of my suspension.  It is all over now,  and the discussions about Islam are dreary and dumb.

[Faithfulee]

Now to work. Does it appear to anyone else that the other BN board is in high gear trying to run off all conservative posters?

Yes.  This forum, in part, was built to be an answer to Bnet's predominance of liberal moderators.

Elluminati and I were members of Bnet when they first started back in the early 2000's.  We spent most of our time on the Jewish debate boards, and although it took the Jews a little time to get used to us, it was good conversation for the most part.  We met good people like Howiedds, Julrich, and Vra.

Then we moved toward the Pentecostal debate board and ran into a few problems with some posters, who apparently had some strong liberal connections with the Bnet staff.  Our posts were being removed and suspensions were handed out.  We didn't like it, but we felt compelled to stay.  A few years later, we no longer wanted to be a part of a forum where nasty things were continually said about Christianity whereas criticisms about other religions simply were not tolerated.  We left Bnet, took some time off, and then persuaded Thorolf (a mastermind and computer guru behind creating this forum) and a few others to start a forum that was "fair and balanced" where liberals and conservatives can meet on neutral, common ground -- a place of intellectual exchanges where ad hominem was frowned upon.

Meanwhile, those very conservatives that continually complain on Bnet about liberal bias and unfair treatment stay in a place dominated by liberals with something like a 5:1 ratio.  Many of my posts have been deleted because of links I appended, and some of my thread openers were deleted for no apparent reason other than liberal bias.  In fact, the thread here called "the centerpiece known as Iraq" was deleted three times on Bnet before it was allowed to stay.  If you were to preview it, you would find there is nothing inflammatory or rule-breaking about it.  Why was it removed?

And yet conservatives do not show Bnet the seriousness of their dislike by voting with their mouse.  Only when people start leaving in droves will Bnet get the picture.  Invite your friends here, let's show Bnet how a forum should be.



 
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Thanks for the background.  Sounds like Bnet will be missing you also.  I have invited all my "friends" and sadly,  think one or more of them turned me in and I got my suspension extended.

I did note at a topic of mine "Victory in Iraq"  has been reactivated.  I was not a moderator, but I did shepherd the discussions through 2 900 post editions and about another 300.   

Incidentally, I never was suspended until the Muslim thing but I did get a few warnings. 

I would lik to do what I can to make Beliefcorner the Preferred place to post.  I submited some suggestions, but haven't gotten any response. 

Maybe we should start a thread to that effort.

[oneinchrist1963]

Now to work. Does it appear to anyone else that the other BN board is in high gear trying to run off all conservative posters?

Yes.  This forum, in part, was built to be an answer to Bnet's predominance of liberal moderators.

Elluminati and I were members of Bnet when they first started back in the early 2000's.  We spent most of our time on the Jewish debate boards, and although it took the Jews a little time to get used to us, it was good conversation for the most part.  We met good people like Howiedds, Julrich, and Vra.

Then we moved toward the Pentecostal debate board and ran into a few problems with some posters, who apparently had some strong liberal connections with the Bnet staff.  Our posts were being removed and suspensions were handed out.  We didn't like it, but we felt compelled to stay.  A few years later, we no longer wanted to be a part of a forum where nasty things were continually said about Christianity whereas criticisms about other religions simply were not tolerated.  We left Bnet, took some time off, and then persuaded Thorolf (a mastermind and computer guru behind creating this forum) and a few others to start a forum that was "fair and balanced" where liberals and conservatives can meet on neutral, common ground -- a place of intellectual exchanges where ad hominem was frowned upon.

Meanwhile, those very conservatives that continually complain on Bnet about liberal bias and unfair treatment stay in a place dominated by liberals with something like a 5:1 ratio.  Many of my posts have been deleted because of links I appended, and some of my thread openers were deleted for no apparent reason other than liberal bias.  In fact, the thread here called "the centerpiece known as Iraq" was deleted three times on Bnet before it was allowed to stay.  If you were to preview it, you would find there is nothing inflammatory or rule-breaking about it.  Why was it removed?

And yet conservatives do not show Bnet the seriousness of their dislike by voting with their mouse.  Only when people start leaving in droves will Bnet get the picture.  Invite your friends here, let's show Bnet how a forum should be.



 
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Thanks for the background.  Sounds like Bnet will be missing you also.  I have invited all my "friends" and sadly,  think one or more of them turned me in and I got my suspension extended.

I did note at a topic of mine "Victory in Iraq"  has been reactivated.  I was not a moderator, but I did shepherd the discussions through 2 900 post editions and about another 300.   

Incidentally, I never was suspended until the Muslim thing but I did get a few warnings. 

I would lik to do what I can to make Beliefcorner the Preferred place to post.  I submited some suggestions, but haven't gotten any response. 

Maybe we should start a thread to that effort.

accumen

thanks for that background, it's good to know that the two forums do not share any of the same supervision regardless of the similar names.

I could go on and repeat some of the same stories that you both have shared NJ and Accumen but why bother. I do appreciate the fact that they may keep an eye on the threads but this "infraction" and Suspension" bull poop is just childish. i've never been suspended but when they began the new forum I have recieved a few "infractions". I will agree that the "christianity' abuse is often let go much more than any other abuse.

But I can handle it. My moniker gives some the impression that i won't swing back when a shot is taken at me. Or that when i do the accusations fly about my lack of compassion or that i should consider changing my moniker.

Jesus was compassionate, but he was no passivist IMO.

If i go and premote this forum on that forum will my infractions increase and possibly suspensions as well over there? I wonder.

Sure would like to name a few trolls BY NAME.

yuk yuk yuk!!

[Acumen]

If anyone knows Tenac, tell him to get his butt over here.

[Faithfulee]

If anyone knows Tenac, tell him to get his butt over here.

I invited him, but no longer have access to Beliefnet,  I ran out of Email addresses and any enthusiasm for being there.

I would really like to twist the tail of some Muslims however.  Let me know if anyone will help in this task.

[Acumen]

You want Muslims over here?

[Faithfulee]

I absolutely want Muslims over here to discuss the issues that I bring up.

Sadly, most Muslims on Beliefnet are protected by the moderators and cannot discuss their faith.  Any comment by non-muslims is thought to be hatred and is condemned.  One of my problems was commenting on a thread started by someone else wherin passages from the Koran were shown to demand that Muslims attack non-muslims.  The typical Muslim excuse was that the passage was improperly quoted.  When I asked them what they thought the passages meant,  I was given a warning.

The greatest absurdity was in my response to anothers topic "What Americans can do to deal with Islamophobia"  My response was that US Muslims must denounce Islamic terrorism as often as such events occur.  The moderator said that "terrorism" was not a subject for discssion on the topic.  My resistance to that assertion led to my suspension.

I later snuck in a "Jihad Watch" response to the question wherin they made the same comment, and that was removed and my new name was banned.

I can deal with "liberal" moderators, but when the website is run under Islamic rules rather than those of the Website, it is too much.

I do peek at the comment recently on Beliefnet, and it seems to be pretty  sad, liberal, and unworthy to deal with.

[Faithfulee]

If you still can post over there, would you like to join me in twisting the tail of Bnet and the Moderators??

It is possible that you are known and the moderators just censor your posts.

I would like to try but we should do it by private message.  Let me know and I will give you some hints where we can make a point.

[sobeit9]

The leopard doesn't change its spots.

Years ago when I first started posting on the Internet I innocently joined Beliefnt using the name Quest9 which I imagine by now has been placed in the middle of a dart board at Beliefnet offices.

It quickly became apparent that Beliefnet through its favoritism was supporting anti Christian bigotry.  I made the point several times and the ugliness of the posts against me were incredible.  To this day I wonder if people really feel this way only when they are anonymous.  If true, then when they talk to you face to face it is just BS.

Anyhow, the great bigotry debates went on and getting uglier all the time.  I had no right to point out the obvious that Christianity was being abused in secular society and I was ridiculed in every conceivable fashion for protesting the validity of this favoritism.  If I ever needed an education in the reality of human nature, Beliefnet provided it.  Finally I was gotten rid of.

I came back under the name Sobeit9 because of the Armenian genocide.  The genocide is the ultimate physical attack on Christianity since it was directed against Armenian Christians.  I began pointing out how the Armenian genocide was being denied and the denial acceptable because it is a politically incorrect genocide.  By this I mean the Armenians are not considered important enough to risk angering turkey. If they were considered important enough, then it would be a politically correct genocide and worthy of condemnation of the reality that it was.

I posted threads consisting of scholarly articles primarily by Jewish and Armenian scholars explaining the truth about the genocide and why it must be admitted.  Since the Armenians are Christians. some  people became annoyed at introducing something of such importance, (annoying the Turks) for people apparently not worth the effort.  It causes more trouble than it is worth.

I was told by Beliefnet to stop or I would be terminated.  Naturally, since the genocide deals with my family and heritage I didn't stop and continued posting the articles of scholars and the debates going on at the time in Watertown Mass. as it concerned the congressional bill to recognize the Armenian genocide.

Beliefnet management did as is normal for them as regards Christianity.  They said my postings were both "insulting" and "disruptive" to members.  Of course the only ones insulted and disturbed were genocide deniers.

Never be surprised at the sleaze Beliefnet is capable of.  It is as phony as a three dollar bill

[Faithfulee]

I look in occasionally and am so pleased that I don't waste my time there anymore.

My preferre topic "Victory in Iraq"  spawned nearly 2000 respnses before left.  The moderaor, because of the mportnce of the topic labled it "stckey"  but the only two particiapants are the Moceraor and on nutcase, that I stopped resopnding too a year ago.

I hope that we can get more of the old Bnetters over here and make this an even better place.

[Corrigan37]

I felt attacked last night by people on Bnet ..
It was over God killing the amalekites.. unfortunately it was by those I would have considered my friends.. I do try to be friendly with those of all faiths remembering that we are all people with feelings..
But apparently it doesn't work that way..

Anyways I wanted to whine..*whine whine* There that felt good    But I'm still licking my wounds ..
Maybe I'm to sensitive.. I need thicker skin..


Carrie

[Faithfulee]

I got an Email from Bnet today saying that Stitch813 accepted my fiendship request.

That is weird because I never made such a request and I have been suspended and told them I never intended to return.

Stitch is a real "lefty" but I really enjoyed dialogue with her.  She also has a spouse of the 'other" political leaning like I do. 

I asked Rick, to give her my Email so I can invite her over here.  If anyone else knows Stitch, please convey this invitation to her. Tell her it is NJlee

[Acumen]

Great, more liberals on this forum.  I think we're starting to get outnumbered already.  :-)

[Acumen]

I got an Email from Bnet today saying that Stitch813 accepted my fiendship request.

That is weird because I never made such a request and I have been suspended and told them I never intended to return.

Stitch is a real "lefty" but I really enjoyed dialogue with her.  She also has a spouse of the 'other" political leaning like I do. 

I asked Rick, to give her my Email so I can invite her over here.  If anyone else knows Stitch, please convey this invitation to her. Tell her it is NJlee

I sent her an email.

[WorldWarrior]

" I am sad to call myself an american when we have these idiots deciding what is best for the country."


Last time I looked the prez was still a Republican and the Democrats didn't haven't a big enough majority to override his vetoes.

Are you calling the prez an "idiot"?

[WorldWarrior]

My reference is to the Congress also.


Who do you think is blocking all those veto overrides?