Beliefnet moderators are thining the crowd

[Faithfulee]

I got an Email from Bnet today saying that Stitch813 accepted my fiendship request.

That is weird because I never made such a request and I have been suspended and told them I never intended to return.

Stitch is a real "lefty" but I really enjoyed dialogue with her.  She also has a spouse of the 'other" political leaning like I do. 

I asked Rick, to give her my Email so I can invite her over here.  If anyone else knows Stitch, please convey this invitation to her. Tell her it is NJlee

I sent her an email.

Thank you.  Hope she comes over to join Wgal and the other libs here.

We need them in order to educate them to the truth in our world.  And if they aren't here, the can't learn from us.  The conservative spokespersons here have demonstrated that we can handle our position very well.

[oneinchrist1963]

I will pass the word when over there.

is wgal here now?
 
 

[Acumen]

I will pass the word when over there.

is wgal here now?
 
 

Yes, Wgal is WorldWarrior.

The changes over here are very exciting!  Did you guys check out the home page?  They revamped it.  The administration of BeliefCorner are planning to launch a more aggressive advertising campaign, and they have a lot of ideas for marketing this forum.  Expect some changes in the near future.

Oh, if you guys have suggests for the links page, let superman know.

[oneinchrist1963]

Do we have the Buddy/Ignore capabilities here as well?

 

[Acumen]

Yes, there is an ignore and a member list.  Go to your profile, go to modify, find the "edit buddy", and it should be easy from there.

[oneinchrist1963]

Acumen


someone started a "Happy Mothers day" thread on another "site"

I posted "Happy Mothers day all you mothers, from your old friends at beliefcorner.com"

it was removed and i recieved and infraction and was told to leave early and bring a note from home.


jeeeze.

[Acumen]

Oh yeah, they know about Beliefcorner over there.

What is actually quite interesting is that Bnet is a mega-forum monster.  They sold to Fox News Corporation for millions of dollars.

Beliefcorner, on the other hand, is managed by 3 ordinary people with other full time jobs.  We are the gnat that flies around the beast's head.  They know the name Beliefcorner, they just don't realize that soon this website will be a major thorn in their side - and it won't take long, trust me.

This website if more fair in their approach to members and is easier to use, and that will go a long way with a lot of people.

BTW, you're better off email them, rather than posting threads.

[oneinchrist1963]

You know what gets me? The site is remotely similar to liberal idealogues, or dictatorships, or communism.

You are free to participate and challenge as long as you don't challenge the status quo.

You are not allowed to critisize the establishment, promote another said establishment.


and the establishment is not open for discussion on ways to improve it like our government is.

beliefcorner is not going to end up like that as well, is it?

[Acumen]

You know what gets me? The site is remotely similar to liberal idealogues, or dictatorships, or communism.

You are free to participate and challenge as long as you don't challenge the status quo.

You are not allowed to critisize the establishment, promote another said establishment.


and the establishment is not open for discussion on ways to improve it like our government is.

beliefcorner is not going to end up like that as well, is it?

LOL, no, it won't. 

The problem with bnet is that it's run by liberals.  Conservatives who participate on Bnet often complain about the constant strain over there.  Moderators have no consistent standard of deleting posts.  Of course they have their ROCs, but they appear to apply them unevenly.  Many times, they rule with an iron fist when conservatives are involved, but they handle liberal posters with kid gloves. 

I've been a member of bnet from the time it started.  I was there when they went bankrupted in 2002, and I was there when it grew into something very successful.  I've seen a pattern in the way they govern, and it could be done better -- much better.

Remember, CNN and NBC were media monsters what wielded a lot of influence in the national news.  They were unrivaled.  Then came Fox News that touted a fair and balanced approach.  They scooped up all the conservatives and moderates, and now they are crushing the liberal media hands down.

Beliefcorner is is neither liberal or conservative -- they are moderate.  That is its selling point.  Watch it grow from the grass roots -- it will be fun to watch how forums are supposed to be run.   

[Corrigan37]

Beliefcorner is running really well and very smooth for my pc  .. I like what you've done to the place 

[Acumen]

Beliefcorner is running really well and very smooth for my pc  .. I like what you've done to the place 

You've seen nothing yet.  They're revamping the home page as we speak.  Adding more advertisement, more feeds, and more articles.  It's sort of fun to watch the place change -- evolve.

[Faithfulee]

I like the changes and it is indeed a pleasure to see this place improve.

We do need new members and Beliefnet is an ideal source.  But remember

IT IS QUALITY DISCUSSIONS AND INFORMATION THAT WILL BRING THEM IN.

So far we seem to be good at that.  I actualy see some learning going on by my adversaries here.

[SquirleyWurley]

When it comes to religious/political ideology, it's so easy to stir up the rancor, and one way to do it is to keep refering to some group by it's label as a 'them'... it's quite alienating.

I hope some of you may gain some insight into this, so that perhaps respectful dialog with others will be maintained, on a human to human level, idea to idea level, instead of on a rhetorical/idological scapegoating level.  I really tire of that sort of thing, and I'd hate to see it get a foothold here, so early on.

I mean, disagree or think some position is false and say so, firmly, fine.  But it's a bit creepy when someone follows a party line completely, in the first place, and in the second place, a lot of rancor often comes with that party line, and people identify the labels and then it's the labels fighting the labels.

I like the model of Socrates in Plato's early dialogs.  He tried to draw out the ideas and consequences and objections, appealing to people's inquisitiveness and sincerity.  And he could show great disagreement and even disdain for an idea, but he had a certain style that was really wonderful, even then, with a playfulness and irony but also seriousness.

I much prefer that to the style of religion and politics.

[Acumen]

Yes, I'm a big fan of Plato.  I've read many of his works including the Republic.  My favorite was the Pathagorous.

[SquirleyWurley]

I really enjoyed Protagoras and Gorgias.  In both, Socrates takes great efforts to engage people rationally, but later on he really grills his opponents, but there's that style, that sense of humor, that humility, and even when he gets irritated with his opponents, it's done in a way that I find worth emulating.  He makes his point well, he reveals hypocrisy for what it is, by getting them to put their own foot in it, and in the process he comes across as a man with character and insight dealing with buffoons, without having to loose dignity or poise or the high ground.

[Acumen]

I really enjoyed Protagoras and Gorgias.

Ooops, I meant Protagoras.  How embarrassing. 

In both, Socrates takes great efforts to engage people rationally, but later on he really grills his opponents, but there's that style, that sense of humor, that humility, and even when he gets irritated with his opponents, it's done in a way that I find worth emulating.

I thought the Gorgias was a second rate Protagoras.  It seemed too long and uneventful.  The Protagoras was brilliant, and it kept you interested.  Is virtue one or many?  Excellent reading.  I recommend it to anyone.

He makes his point well, he reveals hypocrisy for what it is, by getting them to put their own foot in it, and in the process he comes across as a man with character and insight dealing with buffoons, without having to loose dignity or poise or the high ground.

One of my favorite parts is when Socrates asks Protagoras to reduce his responses into shorter answers.  Do you recall the response?

[WorldWarrior]

Nope.


 

[Thorolf]

My reference is to the Congress also.


Who do you think is blocking all those veto overrides?

"All those veto overrides," eh?

Bush has made a total of 9 vetoes... 1 has been overridden.

By comparison, Clinton vetoed 37 times.
G.H.W. Bush vetoed 44 times.
Reagan vetoed 78 times.
Carter vetoed 31 times.
Ford vetoed 66 times.
Nixon vetoed 43 times.
Johnson vetoed 30 times.
Kennedy vetoed 21 times.
Eisenhower vetoed 181 times.
Truman vetoed 250 times.
FDR vetoed a whopping 635 times.

In fact, since the Civil WAr, only Garfield and Harding vetoed fewer times than Bush.

"All those" vetoes.

Yeah, right.

[Acumen]

Ouch!  Sometimes I think we need fact police to keep the libs in check.

[SquirleyWurley]

All of us need others to keep our errors in check.  We all may make errors about evidence and reasoning.